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Steven asks…

How the hell do you make money from affiliate marketing?

How do people make money from home doing affiliate marketing? How do they find out what products they can sell for someone else? How do they generate web traffic? How hard is all of this? Is a home-based business only meant for a very few select group of people?

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Affiliate programs are the first choice of most newcomers to net earnings because they have many advantages:

1. All you have to do is to join a merchant program as an affiliate and send visitors to the merchant site

2. All other work such as making a sale, delivering the product or service, receiving payment, attending to the complaints or making a refund, is handled by the merchant site.

3. The merchant site also sees to it that you are paid commission when a sale is made through your efforts.

4. You are also rewarded when a sale is made through the efforts of an affiliate referred by you to the merchant site.

All easy and simple. But most affiliates soon find that in spite of their best efforts they are not making any money.

This is because the affiliate earnings depend not on how many visitors they send to the merchant site, but how many of them buy the product or service of the merchant.

So just sending visitors to the merchant site is not enough.
You can do this easily by joining traffic exchange or autosurf programs. Your merchant site will be seen hundreds of times but it will not make a sale. This is because these visitors are not interested in your site. They are looking at it to earn credits so they can show their site to others.

This is not to say that traffic programs have no use at all.
I have used them successfully to build my downline in free-to-join programs, but have never made a sale through them. Most members of such programs are promoting their own programs. They could get interested in joining other opportunities, but would rarely go for a product themselves.

So if you want to earn from affiliate programs, the thing to do is to send interested visitors to your merchant site.

Who is an interested visitor?
This is the visitor who reached your site by himself. He is looking for the product you are promoting. This is why he took the trouble of finding it from a search engine or from the particular kind of ads or forums.

This visitor is red hot for a sale. He is already interested in your product. If he finds what he wants on your merchant site, he is very much likely to look at the product’s features, mentally compare it with other similar products, ask for more information by giving his email address. All this can lead to a sale and a commission for you.

How to target interested visitors
The best way to reach interested visitors is promoting your products through search engines submissions, placing catchy ads, posting in forums or through your own website.

This may sound daunting to newcomers at first but all these are do-able with a little effort. You can get help for mastering all these skills from the resources freely available on the internet.

Joining right affiliate programs can also help a good deal to gain affiliate mastery. While great many affiliate programs give you a few text ads and banners and be done with you, there are some programs that give valuable training to succeed.

Be positive
Most newcomers to internet earning fail because they expect to be rich in a week, if not overnight. When this doesn’t happen as it rarely does in real life, they get discouraged. They are also influenced by others who like them tried but failed to earn with affiliate programs. The result — they give up, frustrated.

The reality is that nobody becomes rich overnight in internet marketing. You have to work at it consistently. Most important of all, banish negative thinking from your life and believe that if others have succeeded, you, too, can and will.

That perhaps is the most important ingredient for your success.

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Jenny asks…

What is best way to get some members for new health care forum?

Hello! We just created Health Care With Marcus forum, and while SEO will be really good source of traffic it will not be done very soon (we can’t do it in one day, or we will get sand-boxed).

I wanted to ask, what is good traffic source except all seo strategies? Social media isn’t really good, at least results… Maybe traffic exchanges will be useful? Any thoughts?

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barry0912 answers:

If you do it right then you social media is a great source of traffic. As by your question you sound like a beginner (novice). If you are serious about your business opt for an internet marketing agency and you will see results. Professionals who has worked and who knows what they talking about will show you the results.

People here will suggest you all sorts of links (most of them are their owns), just search for a genuine company with good track record and buy their services.

There are many sources for traffic and if you do not do it right then all these resources will sound or look a big waste..

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Linda asks…

Is it possible to do network marketing online without having to actually speak to people over the phone?

I love Melaleuca products and would like to join the company as a rep to make money and also because I feel passionate about there products, however I am not keen on network marketing the old fashioned way by prospecting people that aren’t looking for an opportunity. Is there any way the build a sucessful online business by using a website that creates free leads and is fully optimized ( this I don’t know how to do currently, but also really want to learn!) If so how and where would I go from there? I am new to Internet Marketing, but I really want to learn it and market a product that I love. I haven’t signed up with Melaleuca yet as I am looking for a rep who currently markets the product this way and is sucessful at it. I would like a mentor that can guide me through this and help me realize my dream of financial freedom. There are so many scammers out there, I just want to learn for myself a duplicatible system that I can use and pass down to the people that I may introduce.
Can only legit people respond, I am not interested in any remarks, I am looking for a genuine answer!

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Hi,

Continue to use Melaleuca products if you like them, but be forewarned here: http://www.tto.bcs.uwa.edu.au/TTO_home/faq

I’m glad you have not signed up yet. You will not find financial freedom in Network Marketing. Believe me – been there, done that.

Wow! I’m glad you asked about MLM, aka Network Marketing.

Freakanomics is right – network marketing is a hoax. Get the book:. Freakonomics [Revised and Expanded]: A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything (Hardcover) by Steven D. Levitt

Check out this book at your local library.How to Take Advantage of the People Who Are Trying to Take Advantage of You: 50 Ways to Capitalize on the System (Paperback)
by Joseph SB Morse

Be informed. Practice due diligence. Demand proof. Proof that can be verified. Bank statements, tax returns, etc.

Get this book at your local libary or Amazon: (False Profits: Seeking Financial and Spiritual Deliverance in Multi-Level Marketing and Pyramid Schemes (Paperback)
by Robert L. Fitzpatrick .

Only the most virulent, ruthless, aggressive, con artists are successful at Network Marketing. You have to be willing to screw a lot of people into thinking you have a plan for financial Nirvana and they will talk a lot about altruism and spirituality and how working an ordinary job is a dead end They call it Just Over Broke (JOB). In reality, you will go broke buying worthless MLM products at sky-high prices.

It’s like a chain letter, a pyramid, a Ponzi scheme. Don’t believe people when they say it isn’t. They lie through their teeth. MLM is a snake-pit of liars and those that aren’t lying are hopelessly misinformed.

Read this before you waste any money on Network Marketing: (http://skepdic.com/mlm.html).

You will hear a lot of arguments that make network marketing sound like the Holy Grail of home based “businesses”. Like comparing apples to computer chips. You will always hear some very convincing arguments that it is legitimate – every one is a con and illustrates how creative con artists are.

The are very CON-vincing – that’s convincing with a capital C for calamnity, a big O for obnoxious, and N for nauseous. There are no nuggets in this scam. See: (http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/mlm.html).

Here are the 10 biggest lies of network marketing (http://www.mlmwatch.org/01General/10lies.html); read the truth and steer clear of this world-wide hoax.

MLM is the biggest scam in the world and it is going global with companies like Tiens.

They will tell you that all you need is fresh leads from a good mailing list and people will sign up faster than a NASCAR race car.

Are you kidding me? Fresh MLM leads! Don’t fall for that.

Get real.

Remember, There’s a sucker born every minute…and two to take ’em. Burn that into your brain.

If their leads are so good, where is their money-back guarantee? Leadbakery is just one example of a list seller and they are even worse than the MLM companies.

Listen! There has never been a successful course or book on MLM success – all boil down to this:

talk to lots of people with questions like “If I could show you a way to make lots of money quick, would you be interested?” or “If I could show you a sure-fire way to build a financial fortress that would protect you forever, would you be iinterested?” or “Social Security is not secure. Build a MLM company and retire rich”.

That’s the first warning sign that something is rotten in Denmark.

Yes, some will sign up, but unless you are a “heavy hitter” and use illegal methods to trap people into becoming distributors, honest people cannot succeed at this.

Do you know why these courses never work? None of them work because the concept is a con – it’s the confidence man’s dream, jam packed with hype and hyposcrisy.

The only people that will be making money are the list brokers selling the mailing list – and the course writers and seminar creators. If it was such a good deal, why wouldn’t they join a MLM company? The mailing list would be free to them. You don’t see them giving up a lucrative mailing list business to get into something that doesn’t work. They are smart. They get it. And expensive training courses – what a joke. They offer courses that will never work for the gullible and naive – the GRQ crowd.

And I always wondered why none of the people who worked the administrative side of the “business” were not distributors if it was such a great deal. They knew a job was better than the smoke and mirrors, pie in the sky hype used to sell MLM. They knew that only the heavy hitters made any real money.

MLM is the world’s biggest scam. I have tried it a couple of times, the last being Herbalife. It has now moved into the Internet to trap people into believing that they can Get Rich Quick. It is going global.

The only way to make big money is to sell distributorships for thousands of dollars or sell seminar tapes and books.

I once went to a seminar given by Herbalife. The president came to speak. We thought we would learn the secret from the horses mouth on how to get the fiasco to work. We couldn’t believe how shallow his advice was. It boiled down to “talk to a lot of people”. That was his “secret”..

If you do the math, and you are able to sign up lots of people, which is doubtful, you soon run out of people. You get 2, then those 2 get 2, etc. It the old binary progression. Do it 10 times and you are in the thousands. With every progression, the number doubles. 2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024, 2024,4048,9096. The problem is those people in the beginning of the progression opt-out and gobble up the progression faster than Pac-Man. This is known as the “Drop Out Rate”.

So what happens when thousands of people are doing this and with the internet it could be millions. You soon run out of people to talk to. And most people are smart enough to know it’s a scam so right away you lose a huge part of potential prospects.

Think about it.

In fact, finally, the numbers will exceed the entire world’s population. It is a total dream world, a fantasy, completely out of touch with reality. It always looks good on paper, but none of the “heavy hitters” want to talk about drop-out rates.

Hey! What looks good in a spreadsheet, doesn’t translate to reality.

The fact is that only the people who set up the program make money. The next level is all those scam artists that sell and give seminars on how to succeed in MLM. None of the schemes work because the concept is fatally flawed.

Why would anyone with a brain pay $30 for an herbal shampoo that they can buy at the local supermarket for $1. The same with pomegranate juice and Noni joice and all the other miracle juices, algae, and other strange things, even flower pollen.

Are you kidding me?

Get real.

Next, you will read all the anecdotal claims that the product will cure cancer and all sorts of other maladies. This is just another form of fraud. Where are the scientific double and triple blind studies? There ain’t any. Sorry.

Listen! Ask about the drop-out rate. Yes, the drop out rate.

Over 99% of the people who sign up will drop out after a few months or less. So even if you sign up a few people, they will be gone in months, if not weeks, when they find out how many people they have to talk to for just one distributor.

And your friends, co-workers, and relatives will not like you badgering them to join and will avoid you at all costs.

And most of the people who sign up are down-and-out desperate, who can ill afford to waste their money and who may be liable to criminal prosecution for promoting unregistered securities. And that’s just in the USA. Foreign companies like Tiens leave you no recourse to any real legal remedies or enforcement.

Most of these programs die eventually leaving the suckers who signed up holding the bag. I had them die on me and not knowing any better, signed up for the latest MLM scam. After several attempts, I finally came to realize that it was all just a scam – some people became almost like religious zealots when they talked about their program that was going to make everyone rich and quick too. I lost a good friend when he believed my wild claims, put down $3,000 and lost it all.

The “industry” is full of disingenuous people whose mantra is “Fake it ’til you make it”. Doesn’t work. More fraud. They will give you testimonials of people who have made money, but they are liars and what they say cannot be proven. If it’s so great why is there so much hype?

Here is a trick your upline will employ to get reluctant prospects to sign up. They will tell Ms. Reluctant that they will put some people under her and they take Mr. Hopeful who has already become a distributor and paid the fee and stick him under Ms. Reluctant which forces Ms. Reluctant to either buy in or lose the distributor. This is what happened to me in Herbalife. I was Mr. Hopeful. I thought I was signing up under a successful guy at the top known as a “heavy hitter”, but I soon found out I had been scammed. Without telling me, he put me under Ms. Reluctant to force Ms. Reluctant to become a distributor. I did not like my new sponsor and after spending thousands on mailings, I finally dropped out. This is known as “stacking” and is supposedly illegal but it happens all the time.

Listen! My upline in Herbalife made more money selling a sales pamphlet than they did working their MLM business. We mailed out thousands of these pamphlets that we bought from our sponsor for a dime and he probably had them printed for a penny or less. He sold so many of them he had to set up a warehouse to hold and ship them.

Now, it’s all done on the Internet via e-mail. But instead of mailing booklets, you get a Web site and collect e-mail addresses. But a fraud is still a fraud no matter what the media is that promotes it.

This was right before the Internet became popular and I was buying mailing lists through mailing list brokers and mailing thousands of booklets with not much success. I was lucky if 1% of 1% signed up as distributors. And they dropped out faster than I could add new ones.. Pretty soon, you run out of quality people to mail to. The internet makes this even worse, but they have to be more careful, but the spam continues to explode.

Check out this Web site: http://www.vandruff.com/mlm_faq.html… – for more facts, not hype about MLM and what a world-wide fraud it is.

I will probably get lots of MLMers who will villify me for trashing MLM, but I’ve been there and done it and I know first hand what a fraudulent scam it is that can destroy your life, drain you wallet and ruin your friendships.

Kindest Personal Regards,

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P.S. Remember, there are no get rich quick schemes that work. If there were, the entire world would be rich in an instant, or as they say, a New York minute. I used to be gullible and naive and fell for some of them – no more. Be a sceptic. Be a doubting Thomas. Why are there thousands of GRQ schemes, because they work! Thousands of Gullible people believe that there is such a thing as GRQ and con artists take advantage of that. Demand proof, not hype.

P.P.S. Jeekers! You gotta remember – if it sounds too good to be true, it is.

P.P.P.S. Find some other way to make money. Have you tried e-bay? Get this book – How to Buy, Sell & Profit on eBay by Adam Ginsberg. Get this one too – Don’t Get Burned on eBay by Shauna Wright. It cost nothing to sign up and find out about it. There are lots of tutorials where you can learn from the experts and most of it is free. Try getting free tutorials and expert advice from the so-called MLM gurus – free stuff would ruin their con.

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Ruth asks…

What computer career is right for me ?

I’m 18 and graduating from high school this year. I have no doubt that I want to work with computers. Also I would like a salary of around 100k a year.

Interests:
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Setting up computers and networks.
Internet Marketing.

Some Interest
Website design.

Not much interest
Computer jobs that involve all math.

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barry0912 answers:

With an interest list like that, it seems you would like any job dealing with computer hardware, like say for IBM, or any network analysis company. And maybe work with web design on the side for friends and family things if they ever need it.

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